Photography (Spirit ~ Orbs ~ Kirlian)

[davea]

Photography (Spirit ~ Orbs ~ Kirlian)

As a pro photographer I would ask that people be very aware that photographs can be faked especially nowadays with Adobe Photoshop.

At a recent beginners workshop I was shown a Polaroid photo which the medium claimed showed a "Spirit".
It was to my 'expert' eye a typical fault as often seen in Polaroids.

ORBS - Small lights - perhaps reflections off glass ornaments or flare from the sun - so many causes.

A person at a meeting claimed she had a 'spirit' caught on video. I asked if it was a dark room she said yes the curtains were drawn. I have had many "Darkroom"'s it is very hard to create a truly dark room.

I ask that you be very aware when someone shows photographic evidence. Bad evidence is bad for Truth.

[davea]

P.S. I forgot to mention Kirlian Photography.
At a recent DAY event held in a Highland Hotel, a "Kirlian Photographer" was charging £ 15 per photo/reading.
He was using a small WebCam and Laptop.
In my opinion he was producing the photos using randomised software which produced pleasing color for the gullable. Not a true Kirlian camera. Again Be Aware.

[fartyfairy]

Thats good advice. My friend had a huge fire and his house was wrecked. When the insurers took digital photos of the damge for assesment orbs were showing up everywhere. My pal asked for the original CD of the images. He had copies on paper in the insurance documents. They are so clear you can make out faces in them. They are definately not part of the background. There are many of them and they are so random. Some are blue light bright. He intends to send them to this newspaper sometime soon. I printed some of the photos today on my new pc and i did not use any enhancements I assure you. (Im not that clever with technology). Look out for them. I am excited about them. I hope that you see them.
Im sure that not all orbs are of ethereal nature. I am sure some ar dust particles and trickery. These ones are so clearly real.

[davea]

Dear Farty,
(May I call you Farty for short?)

"These ones are so clearly real."

I await these images with bated breath, note, I say bated breath and not, holding my breath.

[fartyfairy]

You seem very cynical...I note a hint of sarcasm. I have no intentions to convince anyone what I can see in these images least of all your good self.
I do not mind being called Farty...there could be worse names.

[davea]

Farty you said,

>>You seem very cynical...I note a hint of sarcasm. I have no intentions to convince anyone what I can see in these images least of all your good self.
I do not mind being called Farty...there could be worse names."

Cynical? You betcha. I am glad you dont intend to convince anyone what you see therefore I am surprised you told us about them in the first place.

>>I printed some of the photos today on my new pc and i did not use any enhancements I assure you. (Im not that clever with technology).

No need at all to assure us. If as you say, " I have no intentions to convince anyone what I can see in these images". There is no need to assure us.

>>>These ones are so clearly real.

I am still waiting (with baited breath) to see them and can offer web space to host them in.

>>I note a hint of sarcasm.

You say. Sir, I have no intention of being sarcastic.
I like your good self am only here to discover the Truth.

eMail me the pics to [e-mail]
and I can put them on the web.
Your chum Dave

[Guest]

Mmmm, was going to tell about some orbs I seen in some photos I took, but going by the thread, dont think I will!!!

[davea]

Please show/tell us - We do need to collect evidence.

[fartyfairy]

???I don't think I will not bother sending you these images. Your tone does not make you very approachable.
Sorry if I offend but you sound like a bubble burster to me.
You have made me sound like an overzealous idiot and do not intend to share any more conversation with you.

[davea]

OKDoKay Farty.
BTW Did you mean bubble buster?
www.answers.com/bubble%20buster%20
Bubble Buster: A box-shaped, clockwork walking monster with a medium moving speed and good jumping abilities.

[jojo]

;Dnow now children! lets all cool down!

[davea]

Your right jojo [may I call you jo for short?]
Lets get these images posted with their EXIF's.
SEE www.answers.com/EXIF
for the meaning of EXIF.

I think we have the oppertunity here to do some ground breaking research.
Lets encourage Farty and Guest to post their images.

[fartyfairy]

As these images do not belong to me, I will have to leave the decision to my freind. I will let him know. It seems we got off on the wrong footing...I hope we can be adult about things and not continue to be off with each others opinions. It is rather silly and thank you to the guest jojo for pointing that out. After all we do not have to agree on everything with everyone.

I will maintain this opinion though that Truth is a matter of perception and has many layers. I respect your opinion if it is different.

I do wish you well in your research and hope you find the Truth as it is to you. You may call me Fairy as I am more Fairy than Farty.

[davea]

OK Fairy. You may be interested in my photo of The Loch Ness Monster.
www.dundeedirect.co.uk/gallery/displayimage.php?album=13&pos=8

Note I am a believer in reincarnation though there is debate on whether we were, or will be animals.

[fartyfairy]

I have saved the image for to have a closer look. It looks like a Belted Galloway cow in the water...it is very strange. I will remain open as I do like to believe in old nessie...I am prone to fancy by nature, though I really dont know.
You saw it with your own eyes and maybe you could tell me more about it? What do you think it is? I am curious about it. I am from the South West of Scotland by the way. Belted Galloway cattle are used as the local 'image' of the area I live in. Like Aberdeen Angus are for up North of Scotland.

I believe in reincarnation too...cannot recall a past life as an animal though. It could be new topic for debate davea!